[leo the lamb]

It's about believing a fairy tale. That belief is something no one can take from another. Trauma, abuse, 'life', can all push someone to forsake belief or even to hold tighter to it. The reasons for refusing to accept presented reality are many and deeply personal. You can choose to believe out of fear of reality, out of hope of better things just beyond the veil and the chance to see some bleedthrough, or out of a realization that consensus reality is more the fairy tale. I honestly don't know which fairy tale to believe, and there's enough tension between the easily observable and the subtle stuff of 'spirit' that I can't not consider both.

[Dr. Jezebel]

(09-11-2017, 08:57 PM)James33 Wrote:

(09-11-2017, 08:38 PM)Rulebreaker Wrote: I think you're missing the point.  If you're in a long term relationship where any of those things are shared, your scenario is not as cut and dry as you present.  "split the kids, split the assets, and leave" is not in any way uncomplicated. It's almost humorous to suggest it would be.

And what do I think is wrong w an easy way out in such a scenario? Everything. But we'll just have to agree to disagree.


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Why do you need the idea of "marriage" to be together? You can raise children, own a home, etc... normally when you are not married. This is the 21st century in the United States not 1940s. Divorce is happening way too often to the point it's getting so annoying. Marriage isn't a commitment, love for one another is a commitment. Marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper forcing two people to be together, and why the hell are couples spending thousands of dollars on a wedding. Such narcissism.

You don't need a marriage to be together, buuuuuuuuut if you're Christian, it's generally not acceptable to live together without the benefit of holy matrimony.

Are all celebrations narcissistic in your opinion?

[James33]

(09-21-2017, 11:10 PM)Dr. Jezebel Wrote:

(09-11-2017, 08:57 PM)James33 Wrote: Why do you need the idea of "marriage" to be together? You can raise children, own a home, etc... normally when you are not married. This is the 21st century in the United States not 1940s. Divorce is happening way too often to the point it's getting so annoying. Marriage isn't a commitment, love for one another is a commitment. Marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper forcing two people to be together, and why the hell are couples spending thousands of dollars on a wedding. Such narcissism.

You don't need a marriage to be together, buuuuuuuuut if you're Christian, it's generally not acceptable to live together without the benefit of holy matrimony.

Are all celebrations narcissistic in your opinion?

Celebrations, no. Promoting an event when the event should be about the couple rather than caring about what others think or who comes? Yes.